1 00:00:03,799 --> 00:00:08,718 so graduated Panama 2 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:09,839 1968 what Drew you to the service uh I 3 00:00:08,718 --> 00:00:12,160 was 4 00:00:09,839 --> 00:00:14,919 drafted actually it was 3 days before 5 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:16,960 our wedding which was kind of exciting 6 00:00:14,919 --> 00:00:20,079 we had everyone 7 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:21,278 invited I got drafted in 71 and I got 8 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:25,399 out in 9 00:00:21,278 --> 00:00:27,320 73 what rank were you uh spec for you 10 00:00:25,399 --> 00:00:28,640 were assigned to Berlin did you know 11 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:30,000 what your assignment was going to be 12 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:33,320 there well I was in I was in the 13 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:35,480 infantry so it was the only uh I guess 14 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:39,840 you'd say leg unit left you know most of 15 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:45,319 them were mechanized or helicopters mhm 16 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:48,359 so uh we uh we would uh go out and train 17 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:51,399 and we went to like graphen beer 18 00:00:48,359 --> 00:00:54,039 hosenfeld um we went by truck through 19 00:00:51,399 --> 00:00:57,198 East Berlin and also train which was 20 00:00:54,039 --> 00:00:59,039 kind of exciting got to see the shiny 21 00:00:57,198 --> 00:01:00,960 boots on the Russian soldiers and they 22 00:00:59,039 --> 00:01:02,679 would like when we went through with 23 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:05,760 trucks they would come to the back of 24 00:01:02,679 --> 00:01:09,079 the truck and count each weapon and call 25 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:11,439 you off by name and then you you'd go 26 00:01:09,079 --> 00:01:13,640 through the Border it was I imagine it 27 00:01:11,438 --> 00:01:13,639 was 28 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:21,030 pre-arranged Hitler East 29 00:01:17,159 --> 00:01:23,240 dut hit 30 00:01:21,030 --> 00:01:26,599 [Applause] 31 00:01:23,239 --> 00:01:30,359 Hitler defendant Rudolph 32 00:01:26,599 --> 00:01:32,039 h on the counts of the indictment 33 00:01:30,359 --> 00:01:35,478 on which you have been 34 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:37,118 convicted the tribunal sentences you to 35 00:01:35,478 --> 00:01:39,959 imprisonment for 36 00:01:37,118 --> 00:01:41,879 life has served that life sentence and 37 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:44,319 Spandau prison in 38 00:01:41,879 --> 00:01:48,239 Germany and at some point you get 39 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:51,000 assigned to prison Duty yeah that what 40 00:01:48,239 --> 00:01:54,919 what it was is the four Allied Powers 41 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:57,438 the way it was explained to me um France 42 00:01:54,920 --> 00:02:00,840 Russia Berlin and the United States 43 00:01:57,438 --> 00:02:01,919 would switch off a month at a time time 44 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:06,079 and 45 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:10,239 uh guard the prison one man 46 00:02:06,078 --> 00:02:12,919 and his own uh building it's a 100 room 47 00:02:10,239 --> 00:02:16,719 prison and he was there alone seemed 48 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:19,598 kind of crazy to me but the 49 00:02:16,719 --> 00:02:20,959 uh company Commander explained it to us 50 00:02:19,598 --> 00:02:27,119 that 51 00:02:20,959 --> 00:02:29,959 uh all uh France the US and and uh 52 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:31,360 Britain wanted to let him go but it was 53 00:02:29,959 --> 00:02:33,120 the only way for the Russians to get 54 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:37,840 over the wall to look around so they 55 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:41,360 wouldn't sign the papers wow 56 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:44,080 yeah so you described what was spand 57 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:46,599 what was that before was it you know I'm 58 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:50,120 not I I thought they told me it was the 59 00:02:46,598 --> 00:02:52,479 SS an SS Barracks or whatever 60 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:55,239 or 61 00:02:52,479 --> 00:02:57,719 compound but uh I'm not really sure it 62 00:02:55,239 --> 00:02:59,439 was it was a beautiful but what I the 63 00:02:57,719 --> 00:03:02,439 only thing I really remember is uh the 64 00:02:59,439 --> 00:03:04,400 hall always and like the restrooms and 65 00:03:02,439 --> 00:03:07,239 showers were all marble and it was 66 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:10,319 really a beautiful building and then it 67 00:03:07,239 --> 00:03:12,959 had uh a wall around with towers and 68 00:03:10,318 --> 00:03:15,479 whatnot so literally had to do you have 69 00:03:12,959 --> 00:03:17,039 Tower guards for this one person it was 70 00:03:15,479 --> 00:03:19,318 kind of funny cuz they would give it an 71 00:03:17,039 --> 00:03:23,239 M16 with three 72 00:03:19,318 --> 00:03:26,280 bullets kind of like Barney F I guess 73 00:03:23,239 --> 00:03:28,519 yeah and then I had a couple tours at 74 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:31,360 night and I still 75 00:03:28,519 --> 00:03:33,920 recall it it was quite dark and then you 76 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:37,080 could they had the uh I guess you'd call 77 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:39,798 it the yard lit up and I could hear H 78 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:43,799 making you know like sounds out the 79 00:03:39,799 --> 00:03:45,319 windows like he was uh trying to I think 80 00:03:43,799 --> 00:03:47,599 he was losing his mind to tell you the 81 00:03:45,318 --> 00:03:49,518 truth but he was doing wolf whistles and 82 00:03:47,598 --> 00:03:51,839 whatnot but I never really got a chance 83 00:03:49,519 --> 00:03:54,920 to see him much but I read some place 84 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:57,680 where he had a garden that yeah that 85 00:03:54,919 --> 00:03:59,798 they had it's like a walk a yard that 86 00:03:57,680 --> 00:04:03,040 they let him walk around and get get 87 00:03:59,799 --> 00:04:05,360 some exercise and the uh there was a 88 00:04:03,039 --> 00:04:07,639 rumor going around that in his Library 89 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:09,480 which he had in the prison he would read 90 00:04:07,639 --> 00:04:12,639 about a different 91 00:04:09,479 --> 00:04:14,719 country and he would go and draw that 92 00:04:12,639 --> 00:04:17,918 outline in the sand out there in the 93 00:04:14,719 --> 00:04:19,720 yard and I I did see him out in the yard 94 00:04:17,918 --> 00:04:23,439 once and he was kind of running around 95 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:24,840 acting crazy trying to you know get I 96 00:04:23,439 --> 00:04:29,199 guess marck 97 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:33,239 us here you got it's bizarre you have a 98 00:04:29,199 --> 00:04:36,080 a contingent us contingent uh guarding a 99 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:38,918 prison which was huge physical facility 100 00:04:36,079 --> 00:04:41,758 one guy did you kind of Wonder this is 101 00:04:38,918 --> 00:04:44,279 ridiculous right yeah that's what we all 102 00:04:41,759 --> 00:04:47,240 thought it was crazy but you know it was 103 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:48,839 kind of easy Duty we were kind of glad 104 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:51,120 that's the only time I did it is for 105 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:53,439 about a month I I'm pretty sure it was a 106 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:55,478 month yeah so what would happen during 107 00:04:53,439 --> 00:04:57,319 that month were you actually building it 108 00:04:55,478 --> 00:05:00,240 there or did you actually yeah we stayed 109 00:04:57,319 --> 00:05:02,560 right there y and I think it was my 110 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:04,759 whole company if I remember right like 111 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:08,038 there was quite a a ceremony I remember 112 00:05:04,759 --> 00:05:10,720 they gave us a special belt to wear and 113 00:05:08,038 --> 00:05:12,240 and uh when we took over it was kind of 114 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:15,199 like a changing in the guards and they 115 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:17,560 made it kind of a big deal out of 116 00:05:15,199 --> 00:05:21,879 that I guess uh the way they explained 117 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:24,639 it to me also had a doctor a cook which 118 00:05:21,879 --> 00:05:26,918 was uh you know being I me I'm sure they 119 00:05:24,639 --> 00:05:30,439 got paid but he considered himself a 120 00:05:26,918 --> 00:05:33,240 hero he wouldn't he would not uh see his 121 00:05:30,439 --> 00:05:35,319 family it was against it was a disgrace 122 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:38,400 for a German Wario to see his family if 123 00:05:35,319 --> 00:05:39,919 he was captured and he would not see him 124 00:05:38,399 --> 00:05:42,519 from what I 125 00:05:39,918 --> 00:05:45,318 understood he is the last inmate of 126 00:05:42,519 --> 00:05:50,198 spand prison in West Berlin where he 127 00:05:45,319 --> 00:05:52,919 dies at the age of 93 on August 17th 128 00:05:50,199 --> 00:05:56,840 1987 that's why I'm so thrilled to meet 129 00:05:52,918 --> 00:05:57,959 you because you saw and listened to 130 00:05:56,839 --> 00:06:00,959 Rudolph 131 00:05:57,959 --> 00:06:00,959 h